so, we do have a motion to move forward susanna russo for seat 2 and dr. shari o'neill for seat 7 and leaving open discussion on, again, for seat 1. and i'm more than happy to support those two applicants as well. ms. russo, i do appreciate the time you spent on this commission and i think it's also important to have some continuation of folks that have been working on this issue and clearly know a lot about the welfare of animals here in our city. and dr. o'neill was very impressed with you, your application, and many letters of recommendation that came on your expertise on this issue. and realizing the importance of having a veterinarian on this commission, i'm happy to support those two motions. for seat 1, i do think we have a number of qualified applicants for the seat. i do -- was interested in actually ms. fortier because as she does spend some time on -- volunteering for the sfpca and appreciate that previous commitment. as we consider candidates, always look to see kind of the previous background and also the volunteer hours that they may already